
the biggest thank
you to Joachim from Scandinavian Fanclub for placing this stuff at our
disposal
CO:
What's the difference between your using
of synthesizers today and 10-15 years ago?
MG:
It's more boring using them today, it's
not very adventurous any more. With this all analog stuff you basically
had to create the sounds on your own. You can still create new sounds with
modern devices but it's a complete different way. But since, I think, two
or three years ago they're returning to the old way of manual working on
the synthesizers, like in the old days with the analogs. You can work with
filters and oscillators like you used to do and with just one view on the
synth you can see what's going on there. On the older digital stuff you
had to work through all kinds of different frames to understand the machine.
CO:
So there's a more manual way of working
coming?
MG:
Yes, I think so. We're going back to an
older, more manual, direct and a more emotional way to work with the synths.
It's less programming.
CO:
From being more or less a traditional
synth-pop-band you have come to play with more influences from "rock",
there's more guitars, new sounds and so on. This progress is maybe similar
to Depeche Mode for example. Why?
MG:
Because it's so boring being reduced just
to sequences and drummachines. I mean, when we started it was like there
was no other chance for us. We weren't musicians. We just had musical ideas
but they wouldn't have been possible to create without technological means.
At that time, sequences, rhythm- and drummachines came on the market and
we could use them. Without being real musicians we could create music.
But once in a while you're developing a little bit, getting better capabilities,
more control about what you're doing. Then you're looking for new sounds
and you're searching for new instruments. You experience that a real drumkit
probably is also a quite interesting device. Or a electric guitar, probably
the most fantastic noise-generator ever been invented by mankind. But we
also had to become more developed as musicians, otherwise it would be like
a visual circle which you never get out of. If you're developing it's more
like a spiral.
CO:
So Kraftwerk´s been running around
in circles for years, or?
MG:
Well, they transcend their circles. It's
a fantastic band and very strange too. They are developing in a very strange
way but it's still very adventurous, they are still developing. Kraftwerk
is more like a transcendental thing, more like a mantra. This mantric music
is something different that you can't compare to others. It's a complete
different level, different universe. As Kraftwerk I must say that Alphaville
also is much of an universe on it's own that you can't compare to any other
band. There are, in the very beginning, slight similarities with OMD or
with Depeche Mode, that you mentioned. I can't find very much similarities
with any other band. So it's very much an universe on it's own.
CO:
Is Alphaville still a TV-video-band?
MG:
No, as you see we're playing live!(skratt)
CO:
So there's a sign of change?
MG:
Yes, I was pretty much bored with that
so in the end of the 80´s I started play in several projects and
bands. Bernard wasn't very keen on playing live because he's more of a
studioworker, he likes to work in studio for years and he has no problem
with it. But finally I convinced him and since the beginning of last year
we started touring.
CO:
It took a while to convince him?
MG:
Yes (skratt). We aren't very much of a
democratic band but we are a very neurotic band, There are no boss in the
band and no democracy. It's a very strange thing and I've never found out
how this thing, Alphaville, works. It works since 15 years now but I don't
know how it functions! (skratt)
CO:
What happened with the tour in ´86?
Wasn't there supposed to be a tour after Afternoons In Utopia?
MG:
Afternoons In Utopia is a musical concept
that you can only understand completely when it's performed on stage. And
we didn't do that, for many reasons at the time. One of the reasons is
probably one of the basic laws of Alphaville; this band never does what
everybody expects us to do. It's always something else. I personally was
a bit disappointed that we didn't do that, that we didn't put that concept
on stage. Because it was a kind of conceptional album, like a mini-pop-opera
or something like that. And it was written like that. You can only understand
it if you see it on stage. You see all the costumes, all the characters
from the songs and then you get the whole picture. But we never did that.
Bernard and Ricky had the opinion that it wasn't necessary for the band
to tour. They wanted to create something that was very intriguing in a
way: a complete virtual band project, a complete virtual event. This was
in a time when nobody spoke about virtual reality, internet or whatever.
So I found this idea, that I think Bernard had, very interesting and very
fascinating in a way. But I'm a little bit simpler, more primitive than
him in my kind of fantasies and I want to go on stage. It's the best way
to introduce music to people, but then I thought that, well maybe he was
right, and I was pretty much in love with this virtual thing and I found
it pretty cool. And that was maybe the other reason that we never did it.
CO:
How do you look upon the "Forever Young-ages"
today?
MG:
What can I say, it was a nice time. It
was a period of time that was pretty much overwhelming. It's very hard
to describe it and stay credible at the same time, since Forever Young
is the most successful thing we've done so far. For me it was a perfect
holiday, a game. I didn't take the music very serious and I was quite surprised
that I was able to write songs. It wasn't my intention to become a musician,
I wanted to be a painter. I studied art in Berlin for 11/2 years and then
1977/78 when this punk-thing came everybody started making music. I had
a friend who was convincing me that it was probably much easier to get
cool girlfriends when you're on a stage. And I found that argument quite
convincing. That was probably the main reason why I got in to music. Later
when we got this recorddeal I thought it was fantastic. Then we got this
single and the initial success and I said: it's pretty easy to be a professional
musician and get a lot of money, be a millionaire or whatever. It was still
always a game and I kept on playing. When I write music I take it serious
but everything around it I don't take serious at all, it's a big circus.
CO:
And about the lyrics...
MG:
The lyrics are very serious, very tutonic
(?), very dramanic(?). I must confess: I take my lyrics very serious and
I'm sometimes a little bit disappointed about the absence of humour in
it. It should be some more humour in it sometimes!(skratt)
CO:
And the contents...
MG:
I write about anything that occurs and
I find interesting. This afternoon I came to this hotelroom, I'm on my
way to the bathroom and the TV is going on. The CNN-news tells me that
the Israelis attacked the Libanon this afternoon. We played in Beirut last
summer on a big festival with Marc Almond and some others, and it's a very
strange situation that we can make a song of. So writing lyrics is a very
daily affair, not a big adventure. John Lennon wrote "God Morning" because
he heard an advert running on the radio, for cornflakes going like that,
"god morning, god morning..."
CO:
What about religion?
MG:
Religion is fantastic, so far as I know
it's the knowledge about God, isn't it? So it proves in a way that God
exists, you know. I never understood why people kill each other because
of religious reasons, bur it's something else. It probably has nothing
to do with religion. They just claim that there's religious reasons behind.
It's very strange that people who are proclaiming so much religious things,
they almost turn out to be the biggest killers. But it has nothing to do
with God, God is great.
CO:
About God, what do you think about interpreting
Universal Daddy into being a song about God?
MG:
I wouldn't deny that. It's a very cheap
lyric, isn't it? It was meant like that, like if God would be commercialised
on TV. I had been in America and there were these guys doing prayers on
TV and it's a little bit about that (likheter med DM´s Personal Jesus?..egen
anm.). It's not directly about God. If I'm talking about God I use the
word ´God´, but if I say ´Universal Daddy` it's a more
ridiculous term and I mean it like that. I hate the song by the way, you
would never ever see me playing this song live because I hate it. It was
a complete mistake, it was the worst song I have ever written in my life!
(skratt)
CO:
Why did you chose the name `Prostitute`(album
´94)?
MG:
As an artist, when you create and when
you sell it's two different situations. When you create music, or whatever,
it's one thing. But when you promote it, commercialise it, sell it, it's
very much like prostitution. You have to prostitute yourself to make it
a little bit more interesting. Prostitutes and musicians are very much
the same.
CO:
Do you have any own favourite song from
Prostitute?
MG:
Yes I have, it's Ivory Tower, for the
moment.
CO:
As I see it the lyrics in Ivory Tower
are very nostalgic and about some end, like Alphaville leaving the market?
MG:
Not at all. It's more like a confrontation
between fantasy and reality. We've lived in a kind of Ivory Tower over
the years and Prostitute marks the point when we went out of the tower.
We went back to reality and left all our mysteries and fairytales and stuff
behind and went into the real world. We went into Germany and we found
a unified Germany with Nazis running officially on the streets and foreigners
getting burned and killed, you know. That's what Ivory Tower is about.
CO:
Would you say there's a difference in
how you use the synthesizers today and in the mid 80´s?
BL:
No. (skratt) We're using them more or
less in the same way today as in the mid 80´s. Maybe in the meantime
a bit more than in the beginning of the 80´s. Everybody is going
a little bit back to analog synthesizers and as you can see on stage I'm
working with a Swedish synth, with a virtual analog and I really like it.
And it's like in the beginning of the 80´s.. On the other hand what
we are also working with is what haven't been there in the beginning of
the 80´s, like samplers and stuff like that. The difference is that
we are using more samplers today.
CO:
Why?
BL:
Sampling is really very easy and you can
get stuff from wherever you want. That's one way to work.
CO:
About Forever Young, did you ever expect
such a huge hit?
BL:
No we never did. But on the other hand,
the moment we wrote the song I knew that something special happened. But
we never expected this huge success, never. Do you know what I mean? When
you write you have a certain feeling about it and this moment was really
special.
CO:
From where do you get inspiration and
motivation?
BL:
It's hard to say. You get inspiration
from nearly anything, it's just something which comes up to your ear or
mind. It could be an idea, in the beginning we were influenced by all these
early-80´s-british-syntheseizerbands you can think of, like Human
League, OMD. And for sure, by Kraftwerk. On the other hand everybody was
listening to David Bowie. But in the meantime the ideas are more in a way
coming from ourselves, we're getting ideas from everywhere because we are
doing music more or less all the time. You always get ideas just by playing
something.
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